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> On Jun 27, 7:12 am, "Leon" <removespamlcb11...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> My work around is to use nothing. I have several clamps with "smooth"
>> metal
>> clamping surfaces and unless I crank down severely I don't get marks.
>
> Good point. Especially with the largest of the clamps, I rarely use
> them for anything "fine". Those bigger boys (like one of those havy
> duty 30" depp throat jobs) are perfect for lining up 2X materials when
> making beams, twisting a joist back where is should be before nailing,
> etc.
>
> And I find I don't clamp things with as much pressure as I used to in
> years past. I read an article on furniture making that the glue
> makers ( I >think< it was Franklin) and some furniture makers group
> tested out the glues and their application several years ago.
I have never had a joint from clamping too tightly but clamping tightly is
really not needed unless you need to persuade a joint to close. Masking
tape is plenty if the joint is a perfect fit.
>
> - Over tightening clamps can actually squeeze out too
> much glue. Until I read that, I always squeeeezed out everything
> I could withing reason. In my defense, nothing has ever come
> apart over the years
Yeah I think that falls in the urban legend that you can starve a joint by
clamping too tightly.
>
> - By over tightening the clamps, it makes the wood walk around when
> trying to clamp for that perfect, no-sand joint. This makes it more
> difficult to accurately place the pieces. To me this is a technique
> issue
True, I am building a Walnut desk at the moment with laminated legs. The
glue up was going to be a slippery one because of the creep when applying
the clamping pressure so I used 1 3/8" pins on the ends to hold every
thing
in place, that works out bery well. Domino's on panel glue ups.
>
> - Not gluing both sides of the material. I have seen many articles
> and tests since then that also said it was good to wipe your
> surfaces with a damp cloth before glueing as it would keep
> the initial contact point of the glue from drying out when the
> dry wood sucks out the immediately available moisture. Makes
> sense to me, but I still don't do it.
Same here.
>
> I have about 80 clamps now, some are just heavy enough to get the
> done (my little Rockler aluminum bars clamps), pipe clamps that are
> probably 30 years old, some ratcheting bar clamps from the '20 - 30's
> that were used by an old furniture maker (estate sale find), squeeze
> clamps I keep in my truck to hold things while I attach or quick glue
> a project, C clamps, etc., etc. And yet, if they go on sale
> somewhere at
> a great price again, I will buy more.
I was counting today, not as many as Swingman, ;~) but I am up to 26 bar
clamps, about half Cabinet Masters and Jet's + 6 or so pipe clamps and
numerous small ones.
>
> I have never been sorry about buying more clamps. The only clamps
> I have I don't use are my 52" Besseys. I know I will use them again
> sometime, but I don't know when. I bought them when making a "farm
> table" top, and paid $65 a piece for them plus tax. I have used them
> once.
Yeah, I have 6, 50" Cabinet Masters and wish I had more that were shorter
but I got a deal at about $17 each several years ago.
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