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Re: Black Base Coat Under Aluminum - Why? Base Coats in General Too

by Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 31, 2008 at 12:08 AM

Don Stauffer in Minnesota wrote:
> On Jul 29, 10:12 pm, Rufus <n...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> cr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>>> read a kit build on the Monogram 1/48 B-29.  Plane was given several
>>> coats of black and then the aluminum.  What does it do to the aluminum
>>> finish?
>>> can anyone offer a list of base coats that make the final finish look
>>> better?
>>> thx  - Craig
>> I think Alclad also recommends a base coat of gloss or flat black,
>> depending on the surface finish you are after - yes, a black finish
>> under an aluminum top coat will add depth to it.  I used to use flat
>> black under Metalizer myself, until I discovered a better way of
buffing
>> it out as applied to bare plastic.
>>
>> Depending on the shade of metallic you are using, black, white, or grey
>> make good undercoats.  If you are looking for a ****ny surface, use a
>> gloss undercoat - Alclad specifically asks for an acrylic gloss
>> undercoat, I recall - for a "mirror finish".  If you'd like the surface
>> to be dull, semi-dull, or less "mirror like", use a flat or semi-gloss
>> undercoat stepping up from black to grey to white.
>>
>> I also went though a phase of undercoating/priming all of my model
>> aircraft with rattle-can silver before applying a final color coat from
>> an airbrush.  I found that this not only showed up sanding flaws REAL
>> well, but added some depth under a light color (like ghost greys) and
>> also provided a nice way to produce chipping in the final
>> finish...silver is also a pretty nice base coat under white (did that
on
>> my 1/72 XB-70).  I could use less color paint this way, too.
>>
>> But I don't use any sort of primer coat these days; I get Metalizer to
>> work best on bare plastic, and I've gone back to doing the same with
the
>> rest of my color enamels as well.
>>
>> --
>>       - Rufus
> 
> No, you want a GLOSS black, as glossy as possible. I have applied
> chrome and aluminum alclads over other colors, but the gloss black
> indeed does make for the ****niest resulting aluminum finish. If you
> want a shaded metal finish you can put down several colors and states
> of gloss before the Alclad.  Sure don't know WHY the black works so
> well, but it does.  The fact that a glossy finish creates the ****niest
> results is not surprising, just the color.
> 

Actually, flat works very well if what you want is an anodized looking 
sort of finish vise a polished one.

Black works because it adds depth and aids reflectance - just like on 
the back of a mirror.  Which is flat black, generally speaking...

-- 
      - Rufus
 




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Black Base Coat Under Aluminum - Why? Base Coats in General Too
"crw59@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-29 19:21:16 
Re: Black Base Coat Under Aluminum - Why? Base Coats in General
Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-30 03:12:53 
Re: Black Base Coat Under Aluminum - Why? Base Coats in General
Serge D. Grun <sdg@[EM  2008-07-30 09:00:31 
Re: Black Base Coat Under Aluminum - Why? Base Coats in General
Don Stauffer in Minnesota  2008-07-30 06:19:16 
Re: Black Base Coat Under Aluminum - Why? Base Coats in General
Rufus <not@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-31 00:08:05 
Re: Black Base Coat Under Aluminum - Why? Base Coats in General
bluumule <gvoigt@[EMAI  2008-07-30 06:22:38 

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