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Re: what's the history of 3D flying?

by "Beav" <beavis.original@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 17, 2008 at 11:52 AM

"Steve R." <srhodes13@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Beav" <beavis.original@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>> No, but they did do "conventional" aerobatics. Loops, rolls, stall
turns 
>> and a combination of the three. The main "thrust" was for people to fly
a 
>> helicopter as a close emulation of a fixed wing plane as possible, so 
>> perfectly round loop (at a constant speed) and perfectly axial rolls
(at 
>> a constant altitude) were deemd the pinacle of control and in lots of 
>> people's eyes, still are. there's a majesty and grace seeing a
helicopter 
>> fly the FAI manoeuvres that can't possibly be copied in a 3D 
>> demonstration.
>>
>> -- 
>> Beav
>>
>
>
> There's a precision to FAI style flying that "most" 3Der's never
achieve.

Absolutely correct Steve.

> However, I've seen a "few" 3Der's that did their routines in a
relatively 
> slow and much more controlled fa****on that were a true pleasure to
watch. 
> The hard core stick bangers have their appeal at times, just from a
thrill 
> point of view, but I'm much more impressed with whose who are obviously 
> "flying" the bird through it's paces in a manner that I can actually see

> what it's doing.

I think a LOT of 3D flying is nothing more than a series of pre-programmed

stick movements which result in a particular "display" If ANYTHING happens

to disrupt the flow of those stick movements, the heli lawn darts with a 
vengeance. I've seen too many REALLY impressive crashes because something 
didn't work "quite" right and the flyer had no time to straighten things 
out. Simulators are magic for working out those "pre-prograsmmed" stick 
movements, but they're not much use for "failures in the system" training.

>
> The funny part for me is, in the past few years, I've had several folks 
> come up and compliment those of us that fly more of an FAI style on how 
> smooth the bird  looks or how fast they were flying, etc.  It's not that

> I'm that great of a pilot but I am competent within the limits of how
"I" 
> like to fly.  It's just that these folks had never seen a helicopter do 
> anything but flip and tumble around.  Seeing one flying flat out in 
> forward flight and stretching out a series of rolls across the full
length 
> of the RC field was totally different for them and they were unaware of 
> just how fast a model helicopter can fly.

Yep. Lots of non heli flyers seem to think that 3D flying is little more 
than an out of control heli and for the most part, they could well be
right. 
If flying 3D means counting seconds and moving sticks within a specific
time 
frame in order to complete a manoeuvre, then it's not what I want to do 
(anymore). I'm still in favour of smooth and relatively large manoeuvres, 
even if they're done with the heli flying backwards and/or upside down.



> I guess it all depends on what you're used to seeing but it almost feels

> sometimes like the pendulum is starting to swing back the other way a
bit!

Indeed. And so it should :-) Us old ****ers just can't keep up:-))

-- 
Beav

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 11 Posts in Topic:
what's the history of 3D flying?
Skywise <into@[EMAIL P  2008-04-21 03:45:06 
Re: what's the history of 3D flying?
"Beav" <beav  2008-05-05 22:27:10 
Re: what's the history of 3D flying?
Skywise <into@[EMAIL P  2008-05-06 03:29:30 
Re: what's the history of 3D flying?
"Beav" <beav  2008-05-15 10:11:09 
Re: what's the history of 3D flying?
"Steve R." <  2008-05-16 21:51:26 
Re: what's the history of 3D flying?
"Beav" <beav  2008-05-17 11:52:17 
Re: what's the history of 3D flying?
"Steve R." <  2008-05-17 11:37:09 
Re: what's the history of 3D flying?
"Beav" <beav  2008-05-19 00:09:41 
Re: what's the history of 3D flying?
The OTHER Kevin in San Di  2008-05-23 10:34:27 
Re: what's the history of 3D flying?
"Steve R." <  2008-05-23 22:05:35 
Re: what's the history of 3D flying?
The OTHER Kevin in San Di  2008-05-30 09:33:53 

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