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Re: Weird problem flying sideways on sim. Heli flicks itself around 45-degrees towards heading.

by "Steve R" <srhodes13@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 28, 2008 at 09:05 AM

"Carl Farrington" <carl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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> Carl Farrington wrote:
>> Carl Farrington wrote:
>>> Carl Farrington wrote:
>>>> (on Phoenix, with both the Trex 450 3D and a Raptor 50 3D..)
>>>> This is bugging the hell out of me. I was practicing funnels
yesterday 
>>>> and doing OKish.. (OK, I was well chuffed..) I sort of started doing 
>>>> them by accident whilst practicing sharp (heli on side) turns.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, what's happening now is that I fly the heli sideways, like a 
>>>> fast sideways drift, and then all of a sudden the heli flicks itself 
>>>> around so that it's facing the way it's heading. So for example I
have 
>>>> the heli moving sideways to the left, at fairly high speed, then it 
>>>> just goes "flick" and all of a sudden it's flying forwards but in the

>>>> same direction.
>>>>
>>>> Is this normal? Has the tail authority been overcome or something. 
>>>> Can't think why it wasn't a problem yesterday when I seemed to be
doing 
>>>> really well at the funnels. Now I have this problem and I can't seem
to 
>>>> do a funnel without the tail going all wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> I meant 90 degrees.
>>
>> Somebody on Helifreak has complained about "tail blow-out" whilst doing

>> hurricanes, whatever they are. Suggestion is to increase "tail power".
>>
>> I suppose "tail blow-out" kind of sounds like my problem doesn't it?
>
> OK, I know I'm talking to myself here (so far) but it looks like I
figured 
> out why I can't do funnels and similar maneuvers any more.
> I was pu****ng the sticks the wrong way. Instead of pulling them apart I 
> was doing something else.. wrong tail input I think.
>
> I'm back doing funnels again. Thank god for sims!

Hi Carl,

Glad you figured it out, and some think that talking to yourself is a sign

of senility!  ;-)

As for what you were experiencing, if you had been applying the controls 
correctly and the tail simply wasn't holding, that's what they're calling
a 
"blow out."  To try to answer you question on how to increase tail power,
on 
the Phoenix sim, I'm not totally sure.  Which model are you flying?  I've 
got the Phoenix too and fly their version of the Synergy almost
exclusively 
and I've never had a control power issue with it but I might not be flying

it as aggressively as you are.  Anyway, I would imagine that there's 
someplace in the program where you can increase parameters like the
diameter 
of the tail rotor, tail rotor rpm relative to main rotor rpm, or simply 
increase the main rotor rpm which (in the real world anyway) would 
automatically increase the speed of the tail rotor.  Any of these things 
should give you more tail authority just as they would with a real model 
helicopter.

Have fun!
Steve R.
 




 7 Posts in Topic:
Weird problem flying sideways on sim. Heli flicks itself around
Carl Farrington <carl@  2008-03-27 20:51:07 
Re: Weird problem flying sideways on sim. Heli flicks itself aro
Carl Farrington <carl@  2008-03-27 20:55:03 
Re: Weird problem flying sideways on sim. Heli flicks itself aro
Carl Farrington <carl@  2008-03-27 22:13:50 
Re: Weird problem flying sideways on sim. Heli flicks itself aro
Carl Farrington <carl@  2008-03-27 23:03:12 
Re: Weird problem flying sideways on sim. Heli flicks itself aro
"Steve R" <s  2008-03-28 09:05:39 
Re: Weird problem flying sideways on sim. Heli flicks itself aro
Carl Farrington <carl@  2008-03-29 16:19:29 
Re: Weird problem flying sideways on sim. Heli flicks itself aro
The OTHER Kevin in San Di  2008-04-02 15:36:21 

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