Re: +/- 9.5 degrees.. enough?

Steve R. wrote:
> "Carl Farrington" <carl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in 
> message news:63v09oF279e4dU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> The T-Rex is all put together now, just waiting on the Futaba S9257 
>> from Skyline which will hopefully be here today.
>>
>> If I'm reading the pitch gauge right, then I've got pretty much 9.5 
>> degrees pitch each way. (collective.. I haven't done any measuring of 
>> cyclic throw on top of that, if that makes any sense). Is this enough? 
>> It's nicely 0-degrees at center stick, so I don't think messing with 
>> linkrods will make any useful difference. I suppose the only way to 
>> increase it evenly both ways would be to move out a bit on all three 
>> of the servo arms.
>>
>> Should I be looking for more pitch? I can't see that I'd use it right 
>> away but the chappie whose videos I had a look at ("Finless Bob from 
>> helifreak") seems to go for 11 degrees, and he says other people go 
>> for 12!
>>
>> whaddaya think?
>>
>> cheers
> 
> I agree with Beav's comments.  +/- 9.5 will work for routine flying
around
> and general 3D work.  If you want to get really aggressive with it,
you'll
> probably be happier with more.  As for autorotations, the T-Rex and
other
> similar birds are marginal in autos with 12 degrees.  9.5 won't even 
> slow it
> down much!  ;-)
> 
> To get more collective throw, going to longer servo arms will certainly
do
> it.  You can also look at our swash mixing numbers.  They default at 50%

> for
> ail, eel, and pitch.  You can try running the pitch number up to 60 or
65%
> and see what that does for you.  Depending on how you're setup 
> mechanically,
> it may not take much but if 65% doesn't give you what you need, I'd go 
> out a
> hole on the servo arms.
> 
> Good luck and let us know how it goes!
> Fly Safe,
> Steve R.

I like the idea of that.. i.e I understand it and it seems to make sense 
to me. Am I correct in that I should be looking for this sort of 
mechanical pitch (+/- 12 or whatever), and then using my pitch curves to 
actually set usable pitch ranges in the various flight modes?

I took the heli out for its maiden hover in the back yard before, having 
not yet set my pitch curves, so it was -9.5 bottom stick, 0 mid stick 
and +9.5 full stick. It hovered nice enough, although a little touchy on 
the collective for a newbie like me :)

There didn't seem to be much cyclic response at all, which is probably 
good for learning hovering. I'm guessing that's because I have the 
flybar weights all the way out on the flybar.

I'm quite happy anyway. Or at least I was once I hit the 401's reverse 
button after its initial spiral of madness.

Fit/finish of the T-Rex's parts isn't great. It's the SE V2 and there's 
a lot of play around the head/swashplate/mixers, too much to even 
remotely think it's a high quality thing (which I thought it was..). 
Nevermind. Everybody say they still fly well regardless.