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Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question

by Todd Rich <torin@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jan 2, 2008 at 12:29 PM

Prometheus <prometheus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:48:27 +0000 (UTC), Todd Rich <torin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
(snip)
> >While you don't have to use Anhydrous, I'm not that happy with 20 Mule 
> >Team.  They seem to have added something to it that makes it stick a
lot 
> >more, which is a pain when you have to wire brush the slag off the
anvil 
> >and the hammer.  I got a pail of plain borax from a chemical supply
house 
> >and it behaves like the 20 Mule team I remember from 8-10 years ago.  A

> >jeweler friend of mine pointed out some changes in behavior of 20 Mule 
> >Team she noticed when using it as a soldering flux, which lead me to
try 
> >changing my flux.  As to the amount, you are overdoing it.  You really 
> >only need enough to coat the piece and it should last through 2 or 3 
> >heats, after which you should wire brush it off and reapply a little
more.

> Yes, it is kind of a sticky mess.  I thought that was just the price I
> had to pay to use a flux in a forge- well, if this one turns out, and
> I decide I want to keep at it, I'll invest in a better grade of flux.
> It definately helps to know that refluxing after every heat is
> unneccessary.

Well, if you want to ping my e-mail with a mailing address, I'll mail you 
about a cup of the straight sodium borate pentahydrate that I have (though

it might be decahydrate by the time it gets to you).

(snip)
> I don't know if it's because of the flux or the mix, but it's not
> scaling at all with what I've got it set at now, and it's plenty hot
> until the tank begins to freeze up (I've really got to get my 100
> pound tank down to the co-op and get it filled, the 20 pounder is a
> PITA!)

Sounds like you are doing fine then.  (Yeah 100# tanks are a lot nicer to 
use.)

(snip)
> Perfect- I'll just make sure to get some more ferric chloride, as it's
> pretty cheap anyway.

Mixing it at about 3 parts water to 1 part ferric chloride seems to give a

lot of people a fast and fairly clean etch.

	Good luck.
		(now I just need to get my power hammer finished...)
 




 22 Posts in Topic:
A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Prometheus <prometheus  2007-12-29 10:02:30 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Todd Rich <torin@[EMAI  2007-12-29 16:48:27 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Prometheus <prometheus  2007-12-29 21:25:22 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Todd Rich <torin@[EMAI  2008-01-02 12:29:54 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Todd Rich <torin@[EMAI  2008-01-02 12:46:27 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Chilla <charlesanderso  2007-12-30 15:04:14 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Todd Rich <torin@[EMAI  2008-01-02 12:36:04 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
"John O. Kopf"   2007-12-29 18:22:05 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Prometheus <prometheus  2007-12-29 21:26:14 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Chilla <charlesanderso  2007-12-30 15:05:53 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Trevor Jones <t.o.jone  2007-12-29 19:18:42 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Prometheus <prometheus  2007-12-29 21:40:18 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Chilla <charlesanderso  2007-12-30 15:23:45 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Trevor Jones <t.o.jone  2007-12-30 04:35:31 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Chilla <charlesanderso  2007-12-30 14:54:52 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
spaco <spaco@[EMAIL PR  2007-12-29 22:58:05 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Trevor Jones <t.o.jone  2007-12-30 05:03:44 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Chilla <charlesanderso  2007-12-30 16:39:31 
My favorite flux
spaco <spaco@[EMAIL PR  2007-12-30 10:49:33 
Re: My favorite flux
Trevor Jones <t.o.jone  2007-12-30 17:11:08 
Re: My favorite flux
alvinj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-01-03 00:04:19 
Re: A fairly basic pattern-welding question
Prometheus <prometheus  2007-12-30 09:33:54 

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